Cedar Mountain Fire Protection District
Public Hearing Minutes
May 27, 2017
3620 Mammoth Creek Road, Duck Creek Village, UT. 84762
Board Members Present:
Mike Petullo, Chairman
Frank Gagliardi, District Clerk
Brad Robbins, Treasurer - Absent
Diane Adams, Member
Chuck Brechler, Member
Bob Shackleford, Member
Don VanDine, Member
Public in attendance are:
Carol Gagliardi; Salli Shackleford; John & Kathy Cox; Jerry & Jackie Triebold; Ray & Linda Waber;
Saundra VanDine; Roger Adams; Kane County Commissioner Lamont Smith; Kevin Davies;
Charles Hightower; and Beth Bayley.
It is May 27, 2017 at 18:00 hours. This is the Cedar Mountain Fire Protection District Public Hearing.
Chairman Petullo -
The topic of the Public Hearing is a proposed fee increase. This is the 4th in a series of Public Hearings we had official and the Chief conducted 2 Public Hearings in Henderson and Boulder City. So we've had 5 previous. Generally speaking for a Public Hearing we sit and you speak, but the Chief has a presentation that I think some folks in here haven't seen that covers the topic of the fee increase which is the addition of 4 fulltime firefighters that would provide fire protection and suppression and EMS services for the Cedar Mountain Fire Protection District.
Chairman Petullo now turns the public hearing over to Chief Tuttle.
The public was given the printout of Chief Tuttle's PowerPoint presentation to look at as he goes through it. Copies are available at the Fire Station at 3620 Mammoth Creek Road for interested parties.
Questions and/or Comments?
Chairman Petullo -
This topic will be on the Agenda for June 10th which is the next scheduled meeting to be voted upon. We have to make a decision soon because we have to certify to the county what the fee will be for this tax year that will be on the November Tax Bill.
Charles Hightower - I have 2 questions. On the salary I didn't see anything for food, laundry, or miscellaneous. I would imagine you had that here.
Chief Tuttle - That is a good question. They would be required to bring in their own laundry soap. We have laundry facilities, but they have to bring their own detergents, etc. For food, they bring in their own food. It would be just like a regular job when you bring your lunch to work. You just bring enough for the 48 hour shift. Also, I encourage the firefighters to have a presence in the public so I like it when they go down and have lunch in the Village.
Charles Hightower - The second question was that you seem to assume that only one emergency at a time happens here. It seems like this would help them to solve that problem to some extent.
Chief Tuttle - You are right. Back to back emergencies happen frequently, especially in the summer months. When we have back to back calls we are going to have to peel off and ideally when I have volunteers arrive at the station, I like to have a couple hold back just for that reason. If I need everybody at the scene they are all going to the scene, but if not they'd standby at the station.
Chief Tuttle and Charles Hightower continue to discuss these questions along with other members of the public and the Board Members.
Salli Shackleford - So far our residents in Strawberry that had this presentation seems to be in support of it. They like the idea of having a response and a lot of people come from other areas where you dial 911 and help comes. Up here we can't always do that until now and I think the expectation is there. For $200 a year it's not a lot to ask.
Jerry Triebold - I really like the idea of having the 24/7 coverage, but I have a problem. When Kane County promoted this area as a recreational area whether they are going to Bryce Canyon, whether they are coming to any of this area around here and now we have a fire station that turns into an information center. Now we got people getting scuffed up and they come here because they are out of the area, they've fallen or what not. They are not residents from this area. I really think Kane County should come step forward and try to offset some of these funds. I don't know why it should be dropped on the 4,600 property owners or whatever that figure is right now. I mean I like the idea, but I don't know why all the burden should be put on 4,600 property owners.
Chairman Petullo - The County created the District to provide fire prevention and suppression and EMS services here. That is what we are tasked to do so we are doing it. Your question about the non-residents, the last few meetings, we have been talking about that. Now that we have quick response unit capability and we are providing this service as an expense to us the tax payers, us included. Should we be paying for that or should we be billing people or billing the Hospital or getting restocked? All these questions have been asked and we are working on that.
Jerry Triebold - I just feel because of the influx of visitors to the area, I don't think the whole burden should be put on the 4,600 property owners.
Commissioner Smith - When a Local District is created it takes it away from the county. The only thing that we as the county of a local district do is to make sure that everybody is trained. There is no place in the budget to get money out. We just don't have that. All of our money is allocated to the different places. There is more explanation by Commissioner Smith on this.
Commissioner Smith - I have one more question. Have you figured out what the cost would be with this extra $25 a month? Is that what it is, $25?
Chief Tuttle - A month, No. It is $17 a month, $200 a year.
Chairman Petullo - It's a fee increase of $75 a year.
District Clerk Gagliardi - We have a little over 4,000 taxable parcels at $200 a parcel.
Carol Gagliardi - Chief has given us a great presentation for his 10 cents. Could you discuss your needs for the other 10 cents?
Chairman Petullo - We are in the process of negotiating to buy the building in Swains Creek to house an Engine which will reduce their ISO rating significantly. The rest of the District other than Zion is at a 5.
That's where some of the money would go. We also just got word this week that there is a meeting on July 13th that is being hosted by the Conservancy District and they are going to talk about the Townsite Act which we haven't heard anything about in months.
District Clerk Gagliardi - About $170,000 of the increase would go towards the 4 fulltime firefighters. The total $75 increase over all the taxable parcels would be approximately $300,000. The other $130,000 or so goes towards infrastructure/Capital Improvements.
District Clerk Gagliardi briefly lists some of the items on their Strategic Plan that are priorities.
Commissioner Smith speaks on combining lots together.
Beth Bayley - To me its cheap insurance. For an extra $17 a month I know that if I fall and break my ankle again, I call 911 and someone other than Chief will come and pick me up. It's just keeping insurance as I get younger and things giving out. So I am all for it.
Chief Tuttle - I would just like to state that the volunteer portion is never going to leave this fire department. We can't do without them. This is just going to enhance the program that we already have and we still are going to be actively recruiting.
Charles Hightower - Going back to finding the source for the funding of some of these things including Capital Improvements you're talking about. A lot of these accidents I suspect are happening in the forest out here or people on the way to or from that.
Charles Hightower then asks about Grants, the Forest Service, and the Federal Government helping with funds.
District Clerk Gagliardi - We are doing that. The Chief's doing a lot it; Cheryl is also doing the nitty gritty research on things. In fact we have gotten at least one grant each year out of the last 3 years.
Chief Tuttle - Since I've been here we've received about fifty or sixty thousand dollars in grant monies. Those are from the State and we use that for training and for equipment. Federally we have applied for grants for hiring people twice now. I haven't received the result back the second time, but the first time we were denied. I'm also putting in for equipment replacement to replace our engines. We're working on it and there are avenues out there that we can travel down, but there is a lot of competition.
District Clerk Gagliardi - There are no guarantees that just because you apply for a grant that you're going to get one and we've seen that happen as well. The single biggest grant that would help us a lot is the Community Development Block Grant and we don't qualify for it as a community because we are not a low income community. That grant helps build fire stations. It builds infrastructure. It's a tremendous grant, but because we are to wealthy as a community we don't qualify for that.
Motion to adjourn the Public Hearing by District Clerk Gagliardi.
Motion was seconded by Members Adams and VanDine.
It is May 27, 2017 at 19:00 hours. The Cedar Mountain Fire Protection District Public Hearing regarding the proposed fee increase is now adjourned.
Minutes Approved by _____________________________________ Date__________________
Mike Petullo CEM, Chairman
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