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Mendon City Planning and Zoning

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Planning and Zoning Agenda/Public Hearing

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September 24, 2026 06:00 PM

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All right, can we have everybody come to order? We're going to start a meeting. All right, we're going to start with our presentation. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right, before we start, so we can't, if anybody can't hear me, I'm one of your friends, and you have to speak into the mic. After this, I will sit down and speak into the mic. Anybody that goes up to the mic, can you say your name? Oh, sorry, we need to do roll call really quickly. Just a minute. Valerie Tyer, Keilani Ludlow, Dana, are there? Dana Meyers. Okay, awesome. Okay, we would like to invite the mayor to speak first. There's Kelly, all right. Gosh, I wish we got this kind of turnout at city council meetings. Holy smoke. In fact, I believe this is my third general plan that I've been involved with, and this is the most people that we've had to one. And last council meeting, Ben Watkins on our city council said, how do you get people interested and involved? And I said, well, you either do something to tick people off, or you have someone spread false rumors, and you'll get a lot of people. And I think that's part of some of this. So what I want to do is share a little bit with you folks, and it might help take care of some of the reasons that you folks are here. One of them that I'd like to talk about is annexation. How many people are here interested in annexation? Just about everyone. All right, I'm going to state some facts, and then I'll talk about it a little bit from the sense of Mendon City and where we're at. We actually got a letter today from a gentleman out in Petersburg that could not be here, but he said that he would really like the planning and zoning folks to see it. And he said he would like taken off of any future annexation plan. I want taken off that completely. And I'm seeing a few shakes of the heads here. That's almost, not quite, but that's almost like saying I want taken out of the state of Utah. That's what it comes down to is the state and the county has an annexation map of where cities can grow, whether it be tomorrow or 500 years from now. Just so you know, Mendon City can grow from Maple Rise to Highway 23 up to the Forestry Service down to the Muddy River. That's Mendon City's future annexation map. That's what it can be. That's what it can be. Highway 20, or yeah, 30, excuse me, 23 through Mendon. Yep, that's kind of it. Yep, it does. And you see every city in Cache Valley has those. And honestly, I mean, it's not a big topic among the mayors and the Cache executive just because what you see there, you'll not only be dead but your kids and their kids and their kids and their kids and their kids if any of that ever happens. It just, there needs to be that declared because if you look on the east side, cities do butt into each other. And honestly, that's what Cache County looks to happen. That's what they do look to happen. But there is an annexation declaration area, and Petersburg is in it, and so is the south side of Mendon. And it is in it, and there's just no way around that. But, all right, so let's talk about annexation and what Mendon City does about that. Mendon City does not actively pursue anyone to annex. They come to us. We're not looking to annex. In fact, going north, we can't right now. We've gone as far as we can go because our water pressure that we've got in our system right now that we need to update doesn't give us the pressure that we need to go north anymore. So we've actually had to turn one down recently for that purpose. So if you're hearing rumors, oh, they want to eat us up, no, no. The city is not interested in, people come to us. We don't go to them. Does that take care of some of the concerns right there? People come to us. People come to the city, annex. And yes, it needs to be contiguous. We don't do islands. We're not going to annex the Wilcoxes because they want to come in. We can't do that. You'd be an island. You've got to be touching. It needs to be touching the city. So just be aware of that. I'd mention that the city cannot, we can't force people to annex unless we're providing a service. And then even at that, for years, and it's not because we necessarily wanted to, but in 1980, a developer did cobblestone, put a well in, turned it over to the city, said, here you go, you guys have it. We supply cobblestone with water. We are supplying them. That's something that we don't do now. Generally speaking, in most every circumstance, we don't supply water or a utility to anyone that's outside of Menden City. Now, where we do that, we could push and force cobblestone if we wanted to, but we don't want to do that. Why would we force someone to do something that they don't want to do? That's why annexation, people want to annex, you come to us. And right now, especially going out north, yeah, you might want to, but it's not going to happen. We just don't have that capability, and we won't have that for a while. And then let me just, did I talk about the annexation enough to people? Do you feel, understand that, how the city feels about that? The last thing, I want to talk about a general plan and what a general plan is. Real similar to a family plan, real similar to a family budget. You need one, you need a path of where to go, but how often, especially in today's world, do those plans change? And you need to adjust, and you need to pivot. Those things happen. But we are required every five to ten years to do a general plan of what Menden could look like in five, ten, twenty, fifty years. So this is what we do. We kind of plan, this is where we're headed, and we back it up with, we try to make sure that it's backed up with ordinance and so on, with what we've got right now, and then we adjust as we go. Is it in concrete? No. Are your family plans in concrete? No. You never know what's going to happen. So that's what a general plan is. It's not, boy, doggone it, we're going to do this, and this is going to happen, and, oh, this is going to be commercial. Well, maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but you've got to designate those kind of things and what might fit where, when, right now. But that could change in the next general plan. So those are the things I wanted to touch on. I believe I got a text last night from an interested citizen out in Petersburg saying there's a lot of concern about annexation, so I wanted to touch on that one. Was that crystal clear? Any concerns with what I said there? Public meeting. All right, sorry about that. Do you want me to stay up here to answer any of those? Go for it. I'm just going to make a couple more comments. We also had concerns about future roads. The city is not going to come tear down your barn and put a road through it, but we do have to have a possible plan of where roads would logically go. So if you see a little yellow line going right through the middle of your barn, again, that could be 50 years from now, but the city's not going to just come tear down your barn and put a road through it. Usually it is a matter of there's a road over here, so over here we're going to connect up the next road, and that's why they look the way they do. Also, we have not changed any zones since the last general plan. So if you're going, wait a minute, I didn't know that was commercial, I didn't know this wasn't commercial, nothing has changed since the last general plan. Additionally, commercial allows for residential, so properties that are commercial could be commercial or residential. I think that covers most of the things I was talked to about. So at this point, we will move to close planning and zoning meeting. Oh, sorry, let's add you two to roll call, please. Megan Brown. Kelly Barrow. Okay, great. Now we're going to close our planning and zoning meeting, and we're going to open our public meeting. And feel free to ask questions, but try to also keep it limited, because we've got to get it all within before 7 o'clock. And announce your name when you go up. I need a motion to close. Sorry, can we have a motion for that? Motion to close the planning and zoning meeting. Motion to close planning and zoning. Second? Second. All in favor? Aye. Okay. All right. Motion to open the public meeting. I second that. All in favor? Aye. Aye. All right. We are now having our public meeting. If you want to talk, please go up to the microphone, announce your name before you talk, and then give us a clear question. Oh, where you're from would be nice. No, you have to be on the list. Roseanne Brantley. I live on Cobblestone. I want to be annexed, but I have an acreage with only one property number. Can you guys write in your annexation stuff that we could have Greenbelt still? Is that a possibility? Greenbelt is decided by the county based on the size of your property, so if we annex you, that won't change. If you apply to be annexed and you're annexed, that won't change. So I could still have my Greenbelt and be annexed to the city? I believe so. Let me ask the mayor just to be sure. That's why I have you guys. I don't know that one. To the best of my knowledge, county decides what is Greenbelt. I'm already in Greenbelt. I want to stay in Greenbelt because my taxes will be astronomical. It doesn't make sense to annex to Mendon. I would love to annex to Mendon. Thank you for your input. Just an opinion, but I don't think annexation would change. I think their parameters are based on other things rather than where you reside in the county. I'm Ron Campbell. I'm a Mendon resident on the north side. My wife and I read through the plan last night fairly quickly, but just had one or two things we wanted to suggest that ought to be considered. One of them is that it just would be a suggestion in the general plan that planning and zoning ordinances might include something that would rule out having storage shed facilities in the city limits. The reason for that is just aesthetics and having it suitable as a place to live. I want to suggest that. The same as you would junkyards or auto wrecking yards. They're about that unsightly. Of course, we annex all the way north where we've got that facility in, but then that's already in. Another thing on there is on cemetery. I don't know that the cemetery belongs in the- I can't remember if we read anything about cemetery in the general plan, did we? Is there a little bit in there? There's just a little bit, yeah, basically what's changed. I think the only thing there that we feel pretty strongly about is that our cemetery ought to be for Petersburg and Mendon and people in the surrounding area, and that in order to keep it that way, our cemetery rates ought to be maybe on par with what Providence and maybe a couple of other cities and just use those as benchmarks instead of being the lowest-priced cemetery lot in the valley. I think those are the two main things that we're concerned about. Awesome, thank you. Just as a quick comment on the storage sheds and junkyards, currently we have several properties in the city that are zoned commercial. It does not allow for a junkyard. I don't know about a storage shed. It might. We're looking at one of the things in the general plan is that we're looking at trying to go through a process, and it's complicated because you have to figure out all the you can do this, you can't do that, what loopholes might come up, but trying to go through a process of changing what is commercial in the city surrounded by houses to residential commercial, which would then have properties that if somebody wants to put a CPA office in their house, that's fine. It's low-impact. It's not going to be like having a junkyard next to you. So it would take out some of the impact that the current commercial code has. But in the future as we grow, we would have to have the opportunity for commercial and eventually somewhere industrial. I'm not sure that we can restrict. No, not at this point. I mean, we can dictate how they come in, what the appearance is. But I don't think we could restrict. Hi, I'm Paul Geiman. I'm from Petersboro. I just have a question. You've got to talk into the mic. I think the vast majority of us probably came here because of a Facebook post by a city council member of Mandan City, which I do appreciate knowing something that happened. And I think if everyone asked how they found out about this meeting from Petersboro, it came directly from that. What would be beneficial as a non-Mandan resident who does not want to be a Mandan resident is if there is something that's going to pertain to outside of Mandan City that we have some knowledge of a newsletter, an email. If there was a way that the city could give that to us, I'd probably speak for my friends and neighbors. It would probably put us at ease knowing what was being discussed. Are we going to look at the Mandan City agenda? I don't. I'm not a Mandan City resident. I don't pay Mandan taxes. I'm not a Mandan resident. Just like I don't pay attention to what happens in Benson or Logan. That would be really beneficial for all of us if anything that pertained outside of Mandan City, whether it be Cobblestone or Petersboro, I think that would be really beneficial to the body that's here. I think that's why I did the Facebook though. Genuinely, what method do you think could be better than that? What method would be better to inform? I think if there was an email newsletter, email agenda, I think it would be really beneficial. There was a regular newsletter that went out that people could opt in or opt out of. Absolutely. So it's not just additional spam, but those are interested. I think that would be really beneficial, whether that be a planning and zoning agenda or a Mandan City Council meeting agenda. I think you guys send things out and they're like, your water bill? I don't receive that. I would have no way of getting that. Then you start things getting big, people, concerns growing. You probably have heard from the public a little bit. I think if there was an agenda that was, this is from Mandan City, letterhead, email, whatever, that this is what's happening, this is what's being discussed, I think it would put to ease a lot of concerns. Thank you. That's very good. Could I touch on that real quick? We are about ready to change webmasters. Again, we've had some trouble with our website. But our hope is to set something up to where we do have, the news is easier to get on our website. As for, I'm a despiser of Facebook, especially Mandan411. I respect what you just said. I also would ask, and I tell this to citizens, because this isn't the only time that you hear things go. The text I got last night, boy, get ready for pitchforks and fire, those types of things. I'm like, dang it, I'm not mean, call me. I'll tell you. I'll tell you really how it is. I don't, well, sometimes I bite, it depends on who it is, but going the other way, we've got a great city council, we've got a great planning and zoning that is more than happy to talk to someone rather than, did you see this and did you see that, and doggone it, and getting people fired up. How about before you get fired up, give a call. It can be that simple. So that goes two ways. That's fair what you've got. I think what I'm saying is fair too. Talk to me. Please, talk to the council. I'd like to add that on the city website we have news and notices and we have meetings, and so you can go to the city website and you can look at what's coming up and you can look at what's happened as well. There is Amy Garby, city council member. There is also a Utah public notice website that you can get on and receive notifications of all the city meetings for Mendon City. They will send them to you, the agendas, the minutes, all of that can be sent to you by you going to that website and signing up, and it will come automatically to your email. It doesn't matter where you live. You can ask for the minutes and the meetings from wherever. Judy, you live a block from me. Come talk to me. Go ahead. All right, next. Hi, I'm Joshua Williams. My family and I moved into the area, into Petersburg, about two years ago when I retired from the military. We have about four parcels, about 127 acres out in Petersburg. First, I wanted to thank you for all the work that goes into building a general plan. When I actually chose to move into the Cache County area, I read the county general plan, road manual, county codes, and all the other things, and I think they're actually extremely beneficial documents, and I know they take a lot of work, so I'm really thankful for that. What I'm here to talk about today, or ask about at least, is the annexation of Petersburg. Mendon has an amazing culture. They've got amazing people, and we absolutely love Mendon. Petersburg is not quite as established, but it also has a culture and a heritage. Having been three generations of military, it's something that I've also sought after my entire life, is to be able to have roots and to have something that I can call home. When I look at Petersburg and when I look at the projected expansion, what I see is the doors closing for us to be able to actually have our own government, our own town. My understanding is that in Utah, all you need is around 75 people to be able to have your own town. We've got 600 or 700 that are in the Petersburg boundaries. We've also got some major corporations, our two large industries, agriculture and robotics, and some others that are going into that area as well. My question is, I guess, two-part. One, what was actually done to actually contact the people of Petersburg to ask what we feel about the annexation? Is there a way that we could actually pull together a vote of some sort, just to see what the interest is as we get annexed? The second part would be, does this shut us out from being able to actually create our own government, our own town, where we can actually, again, build our own culture and build our own governance for the way of life that we celebrate, a little bit more open, a little bit less of the beauty of this town, but it's still something worth celebrating and preserving. So that would be my part is, can I get answers to both of those, or is that something we can look at for the future? Kaylani, would you like me to? I think he may have, you may have come in late. I touched on the annexation portion. So for those that came late, I'll go over that again. As for Petersburg creating their own city, that was talked about about 10 to 15 years ago. I know that happened. Knock yourself out. I say go for it. The more the merrier. I don't have an issue with that, and I don't think Men in City does. You're just in our annexation zone, and that's just the way it is right now. It's not as easy. I know. It's extremely difficult. That's why it died then. As for the annexation, did you not hear my early announcement? No, I was here. You were here. So Petersburg is in our annexation zone. Is that new to this general plan, or was that there? No, that's been since Cache County was established in 18-something or other. You're just part of Menden proper. You just are. But if we chose to go a different direction, there's nothing that would stop us from doing that per the way that this is to your knowledge. Right now, anything that's contiguous, touching, so on, we are not knocking on anyone's door going north, south, east, or west going, please come to the annex. We're not doing that. Now, you might have neighbors that are doing that and coming. That's up to you guys to put the pressure on them saying, quit it because it's getting closer to me and I don't want it. That's on you guys. That's on you. We're not going to ask people to come in, but if they want to and it fits Menden City at the time, we're going to do it because they have the right to do that with their property just like you have the right to do with yours. So if someone here going to the south where they do have the water pressure, they're touching us, we'd like to annex. All right, let's go through the process. That's great. Let's do it. Mayor, can you clarify the annexation plan? Was that developed by Menden City or was that developed by Cache County? That was developed by Cache County with the state years ago, and it's actually called the annexation declaration area. Each city has that. Menden and Wellsville is planned to meet at Maple Rise, and you can see that coming. You can see it. It's building that way. Sure. I guess my point is that when you look at smaller towns like Amalga and others that are very, very, very small, again, it just celebrates their culture. So I was just curious, so thank you for the answers. If you get on the state website, actually, I just did, just out of curiosity, there's a whole steps of how to incorporate. I started looking into them. I just was wondering if that was still an option. And good luck and knock yourself out. On the records to say that that would be of interest at least to this particular citizen. I was very interested when, you know, I think the Wilcoxes were involved in that. They took off because I think they were concerned about that part, and they're done. Yeah, boy, there's a lot. Think about a water system. Think about all those kind of things. A city house. Exactly. So really, I mean, we find a way to coexist, and it'll happen. When those things happen out to where you're going, as I said before, you'll be gone. So will your kids, and so will your grandkids, and probably the ones after that. So let's just do the best that we can right now. Thanks for your time and your efforts. You're welcome. Appreciate it. All right. One second. Melissa, will you attend? I didn't see you. Melissa Porter. Thanks. Okay. Jolene Robbins, president of Peter Sparrow. I just had a couple questions. Some of them have been answered already. I was curious whose idea this was to do this annexation plan and what benefits it had for Mendon City versus Peter Sparrow. As far as what from annexation of Peter Sparrow, all of it, but I was kind of curious why not all of it was considered pulled in. You only went up to Church Road, which I was surprised there's still more of our community that's further out there. Will that boundary be adjusted if you think about having them annexed in all of Peter Sparrow? I was just curious who set those boundaries and why it's not everyone. Does that make sense? It kind of stopped on Church Road, and it didn't go further north. County and state put it together, and it's been that way for years and years. And we've had no reason to look at it, to talk to them, to adjust it, because that's so many years away none of us will care. Okay. So is there a reason why it was brought up now and why the general plan is now in this annexation and why it was all brought to our attention now? Does that make sense? The annexation plan has been in all the general plans. So we're at our five-year mark where we have to go through the general plan, update things, change things, go, oh, hey, this property didn't turn out doing that. These guys asked to annex. These guys didn't. So we list the annexation plan in the general plan, but it's in all of them. It has been in all the previous ones as well, and it hasn't changed at all. Nothing's new, Jolene. That's the same thing as it was the last general plan, as it was the one before. Nothing new. Okay. What benefits are for Petersburg residents to be annexed in? Can you answer that for me? If they get annexed in, you can be on the water system. You get the benefits of being able to run for city council, being on the planning and zoning. You get the benefits of cheaper rates on things that the city has, whether it be burial lots, whether it be Menden Station. There's those types of things. You get the benefits of your taxes going to Menden City rather than Cache County. It's really up to the person who asks. Some do. But it's really up to the person who asks to annex. They come to the city and say, I want to be annexed. So whatever it is in their head that makes them think I want to be annexed, that's what the benefit to them is. It may not be a benefit to the next person, and they don't ask to be annexed. And it may not be a benefit to the city, and the city may decline their annexation request. Thank you, Kelly. That is a good point. I told you that we had to decline an annexation because of certain reasons. The city can decline. People can come. And again, you need to be touching. It can't be an island. But city council can look at it and say that's not right for us at the time and can decline it. I do think it's important to note, though, that ultimately, not now. Just like Mayor says, not even in any of our lifetimes, Cache County hopes to become a non-governing body. They hope to not have land be part of Cache County. They want all of the land to be within municipalities. So that is the ultimate goal. That was right from our county executive. Interesting. That's so many years away. But it's so, so far away. So I know Menden and Petersburg, we share the same zip code. But being annexed in, would we lose our name as well? Yeah. That's what I was wondering. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, say just an example. Let's go along the highway. That's where it will first come when it comes. I've always said Menden will look like Tennessee for a long time, real long, only with a curve in it. It's going to go real long. It's going to be along the highway is where it's going to be. So let's say it gets all the way out to the highway. Anybody that's annexed in is Menden City. But go up Star Route, they're not in it. Daniel Cheney is still in Petersburg. You're still in Petersburg. The Wilcoxes are still in Petersburg. The Friars, that is still there. But, yeah, when it all, yeah, it would be Menden. Okay. So how does that change? Like if you were to provide the water source and you'd have to provide sewer and fire protection, right? When that happens. That's part of what the city would have to do. Well, we already provide fire protection for unincorporated. That's why your taxes are going up so big. You're about ready to have a truth in taxation. You haven't been charged for that. Now you're going to be. I heard about that. Yes. Okay. With those services being offered, does it change all the zoning as well? Because right now we're, most of us are on 10 acre lots or we've been in a mini subdivision where we have plenty of space. If we be annexed in, is that going to change to half acre lots like the rest of Menden City? Is it going to change our whole atmosphere out there in Petersburg? That would have to be looked at each annexation as it goes out. I couldn't answer that. Jolene, could any of you answer that? That's a crystal ball thing that's so. It really is person by person and why they're choosing to annex. So far away. Yeah. Not that it's a huge difference, but Menden City's lot requirements are five-eighths of an acre, not half an acre. Okay. A little bit bigger, but not. And that's just the minimum. Yeah. Yeah, and that's a minimum, so. Let's say you came in on 10 acres. For some reason you want to and you want to stay on 10 acres. We'd actually say, yeah, you're our first agricultural property in the city, which we have in the general plan, but we don't have any of those properties. So you could, for whatever reason, come into the city, stay 10 acres, stay agricultural. It's not a problem. Okay. I was just wondering, because we just shut down a subdivision that was trying to be developed out there. They were on 10 acre lots. And if they hear about this, they might get super excited about this. But we were able to shut that one down because we don't have the water source out there. Some of our wells are drying up on a lot of people, and a lot of people have had to re-drill their wells. And so we really don't have the growth out there. But I don't see Mendon City being able to provide water for all of us out there either. No. Not right now. Eventually, yes, but not right now and not in the immediate or intermediate future. Okay. All right. That's just not possible. We've got to upgrade our water system for the citizens that we've got right now, let alone adding others. Okay. All right. So besides the burial plots being more affordable, the rental of the Mendon Station being equal instead of double, and getting a library card, those are the three benefits I can think of of being annexed into Mendon? That's a personal thing. I've had people say, I want to stay in the county because I can shoot a deer from my deck. Well, all right. Probably not legally in the county either, but whatever floats your boat, right? You know, whatever rationalizes for you and makes you go to sleep. Whatever the benefit is for Julene or for Daniel or for whoever. That's for whoever. I'm personally proud to be from Mendon, like you're proud to be from Petersburg. And it is what it is. And I love our Mendon community, so that's why I enjoy serving here so much. But, yeah, that was a concern that I kind of had was what were the benefits for Mendon City to annex us in, besides our taxation base? Is there any other benefits? Largely nothing. It means we need more employees to take care of streets and take care of everything else. So it would be more of a burden, really? That's why Mendon doesn't seek to pull people into the city. Not necessarily. It's probably a wash because the property taxes would come to Mendon City rather than the county, which would offset additional employees to take care of additional disabilities, right? So it's probably a wash. It's close to a wash, but the city does not make money on development. Over time, we do lose money. So I'll say something unpopular. That's why the city, as we grow, needs commerce, folks. We need some tax base because we don't want to up. But that's what it comes down to. It's, you know, Kelly's optimistic there. Having seen the numbers and some of the things, initially the money that comes in from a development or so on, yeah, it helps Mendon. But now we've got to take care of those roads. Oh, that's getting more expensive and more expensive. We actually lose. It costs the city. Well, I'm not specifically talking about developments, but when properties are annexed, right? Yep, we do get the tax base, and that is helpful. But there's costs on the other side, too. Okay. All right. Well, thank you. And I want you to know, Mendon is awesome. So we were just -- I was like Paul. I was kind of shocked that we didn't get notification because it involved so many of us. We had to find out through Facebook and through word of mouth rather than at least a document or a letter or something to let us be notified. Because it does affect us. And so it would be nice if we were notified rather than just a Facebook post and word of mouth. So thank you. I may be speaking out of turn here, but there has been discussion about kind of more regular newsletters perhaps. Not necessarily just putting the word out when something big is happening, but just a monthly check-in and this is what's going on. That said, those that are working in the city are already spread pretty thin and largely volunteering. And so if anybody out here does have experience creating that kind of material or services, come on over and let's get together and create something like that so that we can better notify each other. Amen. I'm Erin Miles. And I'm from Petersburg. I have a little bit of a different question. In this specific meeting, are you guys discussing anything to do with the commercial businesses that are already amended and the zoning of them or moving them or any of that? We don't have anything to move any existing commercial businesses. They would be grandfathered in and they would be correct with their commercial zoning. And the law has -- for instance, if you open commercial zoning, it tells you what you can have in commercial. We cannot say no to something that is okay in commercial. That is already -- Yeah. What we are considering is trying to turn the properties that are currently commercial that don't have a business on them to residential commercial. And then we've been working very hard to try and come up with a list, okay, what would work in residential commercial that is going to be lower traffic, that's going to allow commerce to be here but is not going to drive the neighbors crazy, that's not open at night, doesn't have light. There's so many details. We're working on it, but it's slow. Okay. Thank you. Ashley Carly. I just have a quick question. You touched a little bit on water system adjustments. Is there a plan for that in here, like expanding the water system, replacing it? Is there any current plans for that or long-term plans for that? Are you talking about in the general plan or is the city looking at it? The city. The city is working on that right now, yes. Currently. Good. How far would that -- how big of a project is that? Huge development. There are things that we can do for the short term that will help with, like pumps, looking at some pumps that can help go out north a little bit further. But, no, we've got some huge, huge projects that we need to do. It's going to cost a lot of money. It's going to cost the citizens some money to upgrade. And we're getting to the point that a lot of things need to be replaced in the city. So that will happen as we go. And that's being worked on now. We have a city engineer working on those things. So there will be updates in that within the next 1 to 10 years. So you talk about that being a major hindrance to -- Going north. Yes. And so you're giving it maybe a 1 to 10-year time frame that that would be able to happen? That we could go some. But that's mostly to take care of what we have. Right. Okay. And then the outskirts of it. So picture what you've got right now. You've got a new subdivision out there. Right at that point, beyond, we've got a couple that are in the city that we're providing water. Anything beyond that right now, we just don't have the pressure to do that. We're looking the next steps. All right. Let's get some pump to go out a little bit further. So the one that we turned down, they can do that. And it's fair. They should be able to do that. To go a little bit further, we need to be able to service that. The next one might not want to. Cool. Don't have to. Stops there for 20 years, 30 years, 50 years. I don't know. But that's -- we need to continue to keep up with that to service the people that we have. That's my -- I'm the chief steward over the budget. And my biggest concern is every citizen in Mendon can have a drink, they can flush the toilet, and they can wash their clothes and their bodies, hopefully. So -- and then we're looking to -- yeah. We're looking to -- because -- don't be careful how I say this. Nobody wants to see a ton of growth unless it's my kid. Right? Unless it's my kid. That one's all right. And then stop. I'm in town now. Let's stop. No. We're looking beyond that because we're better than that. So our hope is just to do a little bit better. Let's do what we can right now. And then the other stuff, we're looking at other water sources as well to help up that. But really what we've got to do, Bob Jepson knows more about it than I do, but we've got to get some looping going on, especially above the canal, and that's going to help our pressure and help us head out that way. To clarify, though, the purpose of upgrading the system is not to be able to annex more property. It's to service the people that we have. Yep. Thanks, Kelly. Brian Bitterman. I live on Maple Rise, not Petersburg. You guys all keep saying that the county wants ultimately for everything to be under a city municipality. Is there any way that the county could force you to expand an annexation to take more land? No. That was my only question. I'm Benjamin Jensen. I'm a Petersburg resident. As I come here, I see that I'm luckily outside of that annexation zone, but I want to take this as an opportunity to ask a question since I hope at this forum I came upon this by driving the other direction and seeing a really, really tiny sign that piqued my interest, and I turned around several times so I could take a picture and saw many, many signs. That very likely involves me in the future. So that being and having stopped where it is, does that mean that the general annexation plan of the state puts the properties beyond the current zone within Newton's jurisdiction, or is there open, or does that annexation zone ever allow the shift for me to say if I want to be annexed by Newton that I can request to be annexed by Newton, and I won't say prevent being annexed by another community, but to choose one versus the other? Generally speaking, no. I don't think you can necessarily choose. There will be a line. Right now, Newton and Mendon were so far apart when those were decided, and there isn't a real urgency to decide where that line is. I haven't talked in detail. To be honest, I haven't talked in detail with the county about that because that hasn't been a need, but when it does become a need and Mendon gets out to Highway 30, there will probably be a discussion. That will be in 150 years, my guess. Right now, it corresponds quite nicely with the last county-maintained road. Right, it does. Now, another thing that might happen, I heard some excitement. Oh, Petersburg, we want to be a city. Maybe Benson wants to do that. If Benson does that, coming that way might be what county and state thinks that needs to do. That is such a deep, faraway, unknown, great question, but it's an internal, far-out-there question. Me, for my children, to say if I feel that one of those communities best fits the culture of the area because they're more agricultural, that that may be something that I would direct them to choose or that a lot of the properties that are actually in trust, they're not in individual names. And they may or may not want to do that. Thank you. You're welcome. The general plan is typically just for a five- to ten-year period as well. That's why the last one was done in 2020. So that's why everything we're saying, this is just so far away. It's there, but it should not be top of mind for any of you, really. So we'll be doing this again together in five years. So if things are going more speedy than expected or whatever, we can readdress all over again. And it is accessible. You can read through it so that when the five years comes up, you're aware that it's happening and can kind of begin participating in the meeting. Hi, Kelly. Hi, Bishop. It's a real name. Real name, Jepson. I'm a city councilman. I appreciate we got some representation here from Peterborough. And I know we're going to kind of go on a little bit of an off-the-path here for a little bit. But I want you to know, and Ron Campbell just brought this up, I am over the cemetery. And I know there's a lot of strong feeling out there as far as things in charge. Our next city council meeting, make note, put it on your calendar, come and visit us. I think second Thursday of October at 6 p.m. We will have our sextant there. I am going to give a little bit of a breakdown. I've done a lot of homework in the last two, three months to just kind of come up with some general ideas that what we're trying to do, that I think all of us agree we've got a gem west of town. That gem is going to take a lot of care, a lot of money. And again, I've got some proposals on the table. They will not be set in stone. I just want to forewarn you, we're not going to put it into an ordinance. But please come. I think the mayor will allow just very brief comments that we can talk about, that we want to hear back from the non-residents, their feelings. I won't if it's not a public hearing, Bob. Well, that's true. My bad. But come and listen. Come and listen. Because the section will have his time. I'll have a brief moment. Take what we say there back. And again, maybe in a couple months we might have a public hearing on that very thing. Thanks, Mayor, for helping me with some protocol. Fifteen years, I still haven't got it figured out. So thank you. We've got about five more minutes. If anyone else has a question or comment. John Matthew Brown. I'm not sure what's appropriate to ask here. But as far as zoning, in terms of, like, recreational use, is there any way to incorporate additional land for recreational use beyond what currently exists to the city? I'm just thinking of, like, I love Wayne's Loop. And I love that bench. And there may be others that share the same feeling. But being able to have access that expands further south or in any direction, is that a topic of conversation for this type of meeting? It probably isn't for this one. I can give you some information after that I have on that. That's more of a county trails type thing. Just so you're aware, you know, that area up there, it's actually called the Deep Canyon Trailhead. But Wayne's Loop is kind of a That is city property, but it is in the county. It is in the county. We actually, part of the reason that was closed, why people got so angry, and if they'd called me, I'd have told them, we actually needed a conditional use permit from the county to be able to use that because of how many people go up there. Let me touch base on moving that. You've got property owners that aren't interested in doing that. Just touching on it. Okay. On expanding. So, like, the public land up there. Yeah. That's all public land, and, well, a lot of it's forestry service. Good luck with that. Other is private land that people have the right to say, yeah, I'm interested in that, or no, I don't. And going south, people aren't really interested in that right now. So I don't need to talk to you after now I've said it. I found that out up at the when we had the ribbon cutting. I heard about that. It is in the county's general plan, though, right? It is. The county's general plan is to connect all of them. But, again, it's a general plan, and you have to have property owners interested in doing it. Yeah, the county won't dictate. Right. The county won't dictate. We want to trail through your property. There is a section in there, in the general plan, that has information about talking about the trails, talking about connecting to the. Amendments. Yes. With the idea that connect to trails. But that does not mean that we are taking land. That means as things are able to be worked out. That's in the process, down the road. Those sorts of things do not come cheap. As far as recreation in a community, as small as we are compared to communities that are bigger than us, we have pretty awesome recreation in this town. Between this square, between Nolan's Pickleball Courts, we need to call those the Bird Pickleball Courts, between some of the trails, the parks that we have, we have amazing recreation opportunities in this community that other towns bigger than us don't have, that our friends in Petersburg are welcome to use. And maple rice. And maple rice. To the one maple rice guy here. All right. Yeah, go ahead. No, Ron can't say any more. Ron Campbell again, north side of Mendon. I just want to tell this committee that what you did and wrote up on trails and looking ahead and the planning for those and so forth, I thought was fantastic. You guys did a super job on that. We appreciate it. Looking forward to participating as a volunteer and helping make the things happen that you've got outlined in that plan for trails in Mendon. All right. So I'm going to call for a motion to close the public hearing and open planning and zoning again. Do I have a motion? Motion to close the public hearing. I second. All in favor? Aye. All right. And a motion to open the planning and zoning again. Motion to open planning and zoning. All right. Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. All right. So I just want to be specific to what is in the general plan. Sorry. All right. So if you've heard something that you think is specific to the city plan that might need to be changed, that when we vote to forward it to city council, you might say we're going to vote to forward it to city council, but we would like them to consider X, Y, Z. In reviewing and prep for this, I feel like we've done a pretty darn good job. We've spent a lot of time on this, and I didn't see anything that, to me, I mean, I'm sure we'll get feedback, which I think is great from city council, but it's kind of time to send it out of our echo chamber and send it to them and let them give their two cents. And I think that the feedback received tonight was incredibly helpful and very relevant. And I think that what's been prepared is very fitting for the next five years and a good shell to work with and work towards. And likely things will, I mean, things are adapting and changing very quickly in Utah and in the world. So it'll be fun to see what five years holds, but I think that we're in a good spot with what we have. I agree. All right. So do we have a motion to send the general plan as it is to city council for approval? Or I guess they could disapprove it either way, city council. A motion to send the general plan to city council for approval. All right. All in favor. Aye. All right. We are going to. Oh, I need a motion to adjourn the meeting. A motion to adjourn the meeting. Second. All in favor. Aye. Aye. All right. Meeting adjourned. Thank you all for coming. It was good to see so many turnout. Thanks.

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